Jen Telles is a candidate for the Vista Unified School Board. A business owner with two children in Vista schools, she is working for change in our schools. Listen to her story as she explains why she is running and how the race is run.

In this episode, Pastor Ty Orr of Watersprings Church returns to the podcast to sit down with Rob and Ted, building on their previous conversation to dig into the practical ways church leaders can cultivate a loving culture among their congregation. Together, they share meaningful steps each has taken in their own churches to foster this kind of environment, reflect on mistakes made along the way, and identify the signs in your church culture that may signal it's time for a change. It's a candid and encouraging conversation for anyone invested in the health of their church community.

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Calvary Vista ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reliance Church⁠

⁠Watersprings Church